December 28, 2009

Show #89: The 2010 Braves? Welcoming Melky and Glaus

Breaking down the Javier Vazquez trade and the Troy Glaus signing.  And hoping more’s on the way.



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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    We were talks about Arodsy and Vitters, not Heyward. Ok, I’mma listen to, what is going to be another great show!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Mailing in the season? That’s ridiculous, man. They spent 10 million dollars on the back end of the bullpen. What about that says mailing in the season?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    You’d have been pissed if we’d have gotten Melky for Lowe? In a salary dump? You guys are KILLING me. How could you have let your expectations get so high?

    And discounting Vizcaino because he’s not going to pitch this year? So… you never pick up future value when you’re in an offseason pinch?

    Killing me.

    Negative, negative, negative.

    When we win the wild card with this line up, plus Nady approximately, please remember this podcast.


    A worst team than last year?? What the??

    We’ve stayed the same as we were last year at mid season? Folks, that’s a GOOD thing. That was a good ballteam.

  4. 4
    Bubdylan Says:

    “… coming off massive surgery …” -Curt

    Arthroscopy (also called arthroscopic surgery) is a minimally invasive surgical procedure in which an examination and sometimes treatment of damage of the interior of a joint is performed using an arthroscope, a type of endoscope that is inserted into the joint through a small incision. Arthroscopic procedures can be performed either to evaluate or to treat many orthopaedic conditions including torn floating cartilage, torn surface cartilage, ACL reconstruction, and trimming damaged cartilage.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    They. Are. Not. Mailing. It. In.

    They are working within certain constraints.

    If two of Glaus, Wagner, Chipper, and Saito get hurt, we can still compete. I don’t understand the negativity. (Not with the Phillies, maybe, but good Heavens, the Phillies are one of the best NL teams in fifteen years. They have a perfect storm of talent and momentum.)

    We are not old and broken down.

    McLouth, Escobar, Jurrjens, Hanson, McCann, Moylan, Prado, Heyward, Infante. That’s the definition of a young core.


    Thanks, Steve, for fighting hard for a semblance of positivity in the podcast.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Mike Dunn has excellent stuff.

    My outfield would be Diaz in left, Nate in CF, and Melky in RF, assuming we don’t add a LF. I think the Braves see Cabrera as a very good 4th outfielder.

    GA and Cabrera have about the same defense in LF.

    Lol @ Steve’s “YEA IT IS!”

    I think we are a better team than the 2009 opening day roster, but not better than the 2nd half team. That team would be too expensive to maintain. Now, you guys are repeating that. Oh, well.

    I think Glaus at 2M is a very good deal.

    To the best of my knowledge, the majority of Glaus’ errors are throwing ones. 1B should get rid of that.

    Xavier Nady and Mark DeRosa makes so much sense, especially regarding the point that Curt brings up about Glaus maybe only being able to play 14 games.

    Damn Curt! Speak the truth!

    Medlen + Schafer = Uggla? Crazy! Fish (fans) just wanna dump him.

    Hammy makes a joke of my “Rasmus comment”? Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice.


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    Terry Penelton Says:

    I am going to DESTROY that Heyward kid’s swing!

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    Jason Heyward Says:

    I hope I don’t let my bat slip during an “instructional session” and concuss TP’s tiny brain.

  9. 9
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Bub brings up some good points.

    Anyone want to flip Arodsy for someone? I sure as hell do.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Okay, now that I’ve calmed down, I will admit that if they don’t have a back up 1B plan that’s better than Prado-to-first, Infante-to-second, that is irresponsible.

    But there is ZERO chance of that happening. They won’t enter the season in a spot like that. If they do, I’ll be glad to admit my confidence in the F.O. is misplaced. But until then, I can’t see how they could be doing much better given the limits on their choices.

    And honestly, I don’t mind the limits on their choices. It’s enough money to build a good club, and the money spent is roughly in line with the butts in the stands. Can’t ask for much more than that besides hard-playing ballplayers. Which I think we’ll have this year.

    Don’t worry. I’ll be cynical by Wednesday, and cursing all the blind homers. It’s what I do. :)

  11. 11
    Bubdylan Says:

    One more note:

    Braves second half winning % INCLUDING the 6 game losing streak to end the season:


    The winning percentage with which the Phillies won the East?


    Yes, the Phillies improved. But not enough to destroy the argument.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Also, the above argument includes a terrible 2nd half by Chipper Jones. Think about that.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:



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    Bubdylan Says:


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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Anyone think Chipper can rebound?

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Anyone think Chipper can rebound?

    Also, he hit exactly .100 points lower in 09 than in 08

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Jone’s career BB – career HR – AB on turf from 2007 to 2009 = 911

    Jone’s career OPS (as a whole number) – his age + the number of hits he got on October 4, 2009 = 911

    (Career AB x triples in 2007) x career HRs – Jone’s 2009 salary (w/out bonus) x Career IsoP + SLG vs. PIT in 2009 + 2004 postseason AVG / 2002 SB – (Career SO x 2001 postseason RBIs) – (2001 hits + 2001 triples) = 911


    Idk what more shocking, the numbers or the fact that I just wasted that many moments of my life!

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I like Melky as our pinch hitter, he is very clutch apparently

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Melky Cabrera is basically like a watered down Yunel Escobar

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Wow…do I dare listen? I think I need to warn the Rev and purchase a panic room before hand. Bub, JJ , how do you function that late/ early in the morning? Gotta head to kickboxing and then I’ll listen while I clean my house. It will help with the scrubbing.

  21. 21
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I like baseball,

    [Insert something humorous]

    Like that, I cut corners and save energy for the later hours…

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    Anonymous Says:

    I knew I would make some people mad, but I’m mad. I want more. We should all want more. Bub, the argument about the money being spent tying into the numbers of butts in the seats is one I reject in every facet of my being. You put the team on the field that drives people to the park, you don’t punish those who show up by not putting out a product worth their time. I’m not saying that there are not a ton of young, exciting, rootable players on the Braves. There are. And we should all go to as many games as we can to support them. But if Liberty Media is going to operate the Braves as some intangible entity that is part of their empire, screw them. Sell to someone who has passion for the game and for the fans. I don’t want the Yankees, but I want the Braves of the 90s. Commit to them completely, or get out of the baseball business.

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    Curt Says:

    Sorry, that was me. At a different computer today.

    And I never said the team was mailing it in. I would never suggest that. I think management is grasping at straws, hoping everything works out perfectly, as they have done in so many recent seasons.

    If KJ can have a full season, if French can bounce back, if, if, if. I want some certainties. I’m tired of ifs.

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    I like baseball Says:

    I have paused in my cleaning of potties to say, ugh. Bub, please find a picture of someone stabbing themselves in the eye for me.

    First, Steve, huge props to your wife for the great gift idea. Second, Curt, I wish you weren’t so logical in your negative opinions. You make a lot of sense and you have proven yourself to be right on many many fronts. However, it seems you had to apologize many times over to Javy and his adorable offspring for how terribly you misjudged his abilities. Also, do we have no regard for the team’s doctors who perform these physicals? Aren’t they going to be looking at the very body parts that cause such concern? I can see that it’s very risky and I was disappointed as well but I can’t help but feel Cabrera is more than just a warm body at first.

    AND… who was awarded ABT’s MVPerson by all three hosts at the end of last season? Franky Wren. Every move he’s made has been a surprise and I think he’s got more up his sleeve (we are tight so I should know).

    Finally, please please please don’t make us wait til April for the next show. I’d pay good money to hear the 20 minute conversation after the show. Next time just record that and slap it on the website.

    Great show. I like how you guys don’t just jump on each other’s bandwagon. You aren’t afraid to disagree and it gives us a nice rounded perspective. btw…who’s voice is at the very beginning and the very end of the show? Just curious. He sounds nice…and chipper.

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    Steve Says:

    Curt – not to pick nits, and I know you were talking about the front office and not the players, but you did use the phrase “mailing it in” about 37 times during the show.

    I realize that it was a very negative show and Bub, you’re right, they did a helluva job on the bullpen (I’m 100% behind all of those moves), but this last week has been difficult as a fan. The show ended and I was unsatisfied that I’d articulated what I wanted, so here’s another try. I get the Vazquez trade, and I think it’s fine. But with all of our expectations and all of the public proclamations from the front office that job #1 this off-season was to improve the offense, this is all very underwhelming and borderline reckless/irresponsible. I hope, hope, hope that there is one more piece in the works. And I’ve become obsessed with Uggla in the past 36 hours although our defense at the outfield (Prado/Diaz)and infield corners (Chipper/Glaus) could be a real travesty. I don’t have the answers and I realize that Bay or Holliday was never going to happen. But the power hitter with the massive surgery (in ’04, that is) who’s an undeniable injury risk leaves me incredibly empty.

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