December 28, 2009

Show #89: The 2010 Braves? Welcoming Melky and Glaus

Breaking down the Javier Vazquez trade and the Troy Glaus signing.  And hoping more’s on the way.



379 Responses to “Show #89: The 2010 Braves? Welcoming Melky and Glaus”

  1. 1
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    We were talks about Arodsy and Vitters, not Heyward. Ok, I’mma listen to, what is going to be another great show!

  2. 2
    Bubdylan Says:

    Mailing in the season? That’s ridiculous, man. They spent 10 million dollars on the back end of the bullpen. What about that says mailing in the season?

  3. 3
    Bubdylan Says:

    You’d have been pissed if we’d have gotten Melky for Lowe? In a salary dump? You guys are KILLING me. How could you have let your expectations get so high?

    And discounting Vizcaino because he’s not going to pitch this year? So… you never pick up future value when you’re in an offseason pinch?

    Killing me.

    Negative, negative, negative.

    When we win the wild card with this line up, plus Nady approximately, please remember this podcast.


    A worst team than last year?? What the??

    We’ve stayed the same as we were last year at mid season? Folks, that’s a GOOD thing. That was a good ballteam.

  4. 4
    Bubdylan Says:

    “… coming off massive surgery …” -Curt

    Arthroscopy (also called arthroscopic surgery) is a minimally invasive surgical procedure in which an examination and sometimes treatment of damage of the interior of a joint is performed using an arthroscope, a type of endoscope that is inserted into the joint through a small incision. Arthroscopic procedures can be performed either to evaluate or to treat many orthopaedic conditions including torn floating cartilage, torn surface cartilage, ACL reconstruction, and trimming damaged cartilage.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    They. Are. Not. Mailing. It. In.

    They are working within certain constraints.

    If two of Glaus, Wagner, Chipper, and Saito get hurt, we can still compete. I don’t understand the negativity. (Not with the Phillies, maybe, but good Heavens, the Phillies are one of the best NL teams in fifteen years. They have a perfect storm of talent and momentum.)

    We are not old and broken down.

    McLouth, Escobar, Jurrjens, Hanson, McCann, Moylan, Prado, Heyward, Infante. That’s the definition of a young core.


    Thanks, Steve, for fighting hard for a semblance of positivity in the podcast.

  6. 6
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Mike Dunn has excellent stuff.

    My outfield would be Diaz in left, Nate in CF, and Melky in RF, assuming we don’t add a LF. I think the Braves see Cabrera as a very good 4th outfielder.

    GA and Cabrera have about the same defense in LF.

    Lol @ Steve’s “YEA IT IS!”

    I think we are a better team than the 2009 opening day roster, but not better than the 2nd half team. That team would be too expensive to maintain. Now, you guys are repeating that. Oh, well.

    I think Glaus at 2M is a very good deal.

    To the best of my knowledge, the majority of Glaus’ errors are throwing ones. 1B should get rid of that.

    Xavier Nady and Mark DeRosa makes so much sense, especially regarding the point that Curt brings up about Glaus maybe only being able to play 14 games.

    Damn Curt! Speak the truth!

    Medlen + Schafer = Uggla? Crazy! Fish (fans) just wanna dump him.

    Hammy makes a joke of my “Rasmus comment”? Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice.


  7. 7
    Terry Penelton Says:

    I am going to DESTROY that Heyward kid’s swing!

  8. 8
    Jason Heyward Says:

    I hope I don’t let my bat slip during an “instructional session” and concuss TP’s tiny brain.

  9. 9
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Bub brings up some good points.

    Anyone want to flip Arodsy for someone? I sure as hell do.

  10. 10
    Bubdylan Says:

    Okay, now that I’ve calmed down, I will admit that if they don’t have a back up 1B plan that’s better than Prado-to-first, Infante-to-second, that is irresponsible.

    But there is ZERO chance of that happening. They won’t enter the season in a spot like that. If they do, I’ll be glad to admit my confidence in the F.O. is misplaced. But until then, I can’t see how they could be doing much better given the limits on their choices.

    And honestly, I don’t mind the limits on their choices. It’s enough money to build a good club, and the money spent is roughly in line with the butts in the stands. Can’t ask for much more than that besides hard-playing ballplayers. Which I think we’ll have this year.

    Don’t worry. I’ll be cynical by Wednesday, and cursing all the blind homers. It’s what I do. :)

  11. 11
    Bubdylan Says:

    One more note:

    Braves second half winning % INCLUDING the 6 game losing streak to end the season:


    The winning percentage with which the Phillies won the East?


    Yes, the Phillies improved. But not enough to destroy the argument.

  12. 12
    Bubdylan Says:

    Also, the above argument includes a terrible 2nd half by Chipper Jones. Think about that.

  13. 13
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:



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    Bubdylan Says:


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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Anyone think Chipper can rebound?

  16. 16
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Anyone think Chipper can rebound?

    Also, he hit exactly .100 points lower in 09 than in 08

  17. 17
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Jone’s career BB – career HR – AB on turf from 2007 to 2009 = 911

    Jone’s career OPS (as a whole number) – his age + the number of hits he got on October 4, 2009 = 911

    (Career AB x triples in 2007) x career HRs – Jone’s 2009 salary (w/out bonus) x Career IsoP + SLG vs. PIT in 2009 + 2004 postseason AVG / 2002 SB – (Career SO x 2001 postseason RBIs) – (2001 hits + 2001 triples) = 911


    Idk what more shocking, the numbers or the fact that I just wasted that many moments of my life!

  18. 18
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I like Melky as our pinch hitter, he is very clutch apparently

  19. 19
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Melky Cabrera is basically like a watered down Yunel Escobar

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Wow…do I dare listen? I think I need to warn the Rev and purchase a panic room before hand. Bub, JJ , how do you function that late/ early in the morning? Gotta head to kickboxing and then I’ll listen while I clean my house. It will help with the scrubbing.

  21. 21
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I like baseball,

    [Insert something humorous]

    Like that, I cut corners and save energy for the later hours…

  22. 22
    Anonymous Says:

    I knew I would make some people mad, but I’m mad. I want more. We should all want more. Bub, the argument about the money being spent tying into the numbers of butts in the seats is one I reject in every facet of my being. You put the team on the field that drives people to the park, you don’t punish those who show up by not putting out a product worth their time. I’m not saying that there are not a ton of young, exciting, rootable players on the Braves. There are. And we should all go to as many games as we can to support them. But if Liberty Media is going to operate the Braves as some intangible entity that is part of their empire, screw them. Sell to someone who has passion for the game and for the fans. I don’t want the Yankees, but I want the Braves of the 90s. Commit to them completely, or get out of the baseball business.

  23. 23
    Curt Says:

    Sorry, that was me. At a different computer today.

    And I never said the team was mailing it in. I would never suggest that. I think management is grasping at straws, hoping everything works out perfectly, as they have done in so many recent seasons.

    If KJ can have a full season, if French can bounce back, if, if, if. I want some certainties. I’m tired of ifs.

  24. 24
    I like baseball Says:

    I have paused in my cleaning of potties to say, ugh. Bub, please find a picture of someone stabbing themselves in the eye for me.

    First, Steve, huge props to your wife for the great gift idea. Second, Curt, I wish you weren’t so logical in your negative opinions. You make a lot of sense and you have proven yourself to be right on many many fronts. However, it seems you had to apologize many times over to Javy and his adorable offspring for how terribly you misjudged his abilities. Also, do we have no regard for the team’s doctors who perform these physicals? Aren’t they going to be looking at the very body parts that cause such concern? I can see that it’s very risky and I was disappointed as well but I can’t help but feel Cabrera is more than just a warm body at first.

    AND… who was awarded ABT’s MVPerson by all three hosts at the end of last season? Franky Wren. Every move he’s made has been a surprise and I think he’s got more up his sleeve (we are tight so I should know).

    Finally, please please please don’t make us wait til April for the next show. I’d pay good money to hear the 20 minute conversation after the show. Next time just record that and slap it on the website.

    Great show. I like how you guys don’t just jump on each other’s bandwagon. You aren’t afraid to disagree and it gives us a nice rounded perspective. btw…who’s voice is at the very beginning and the very end of the show? Just curious. He sounds nice…and chipper.

  25. 25
    Steve Says:

    Curt – not to pick nits, and I know you were talking about the front office and not the players, but you did use the phrase “mailing it in” about 37 times during the show.

    I realize that it was a very negative show and Bub, you’re right, they did a helluva job on the bullpen (I’m 100% behind all of those moves), but this last week has been difficult as a fan. The show ended and I was unsatisfied that I’d articulated what I wanted, so here’s another try. I get the Vazquez trade, and I think it’s fine. But with all of our expectations and all of the public proclamations from the front office that job #1 this off-season was to improve the offense, this is all very underwhelming and borderline reckless/irresponsible. I hope, hope, hope that there is one more piece in the works. And I’ve become obsessed with Uggla in the past 36 hours although our defense at the outfield (Prado/Diaz)and infield corners (Chipper/Glaus) could be a real travesty. I don’t have the answers and I realize that Bay or Holliday was never going to happen. But the power hitter with the massive surgery (in ’04, that is) who’s an undeniable injury risk leaves me incredibly empty.

  26. 26
    Curt Says:

    Steve – you are the king of the nit pickers.

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Just for the record I wasn’t wanting the 20 min conversation to replace a show just a quick fix for my addiction.

  28. 28
    Anne Says:

    Leah: that’s Scott. He’s neither nice nor chipper. …but he has a great voice, don’t he? (Scott: at least agree with me that you’re not chipper)

  29. 29
    I like baseball. Says:

    Who the h-e-double hockey stick (New Year’s resolution) is Scott?

  30. 30
    Anne Says:

    I’m sure Steve will be more clever than I at describing who Scott is…so I’ll leave that to him. Scott guest-starred as a commenter a time or two with Ballpark Frank this past ABT season.

  31. 31
    I like baseball. Says:

    Giants working on 2 year deal with DeRosa per Ken Rosenthal.

  32. 32
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:


    You know whats really sad it’s not our payroll, it’s that never ever comes to the Ted. What happened to the days of Fred McGriff when fans would fill he house for big time games…..

    …Oh wait. :roll: :cry:

  33. 33
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    btw…who’s voice is at the very beginning and the very end of the show? Just curious. He sounds nice…and chipper.

    I was just thinking that. I’m like, “Man that’s cool!”



  34. 34
    Bubdylan Says:

    “What happened to the days of Fred McGriff when fans would fill he house for big time games…..

    …Oh wait.”


    Put it this way, Curt: if we field a championship team, and the fans still do not come out in good enough force to keep the payroll in the top 5, will you be satisfied that the front office tried their best, and it’ll be okay for them to adjust down to the attendance?


    Good. They already did that.

  35. 35
    Bubdylan Says:

    That voice is Steve, isn’t it?

  36. 36
    Bubdylan Says:

    p.s. Not “mad,” Curt. I’m just in very passionate disagreement with your assessment. I wish they’d gotten a reliable 30 homer bat, too. But who was it that we passed on that we should have taken?

    Bay or Holliday? Listen, if Philly can’t shell out 9 measley million dollars to keep Lee and field the hands-down best team in baseball not bought with Monopoly money, that should tell you that these dollars matter, even to teams with an obvious committment to their fans, such as the Phillies.

    So, if not Bay or Holliday, who? Where’s the automatic 30? Uggla? Between the injury risk of Glaus and the upset-pitcher risk of Uggla, you’ve at least got to say that’s a coin flip. Besides, they could still add Uggla if Nady/DeRo falls through. IF they want to risk his fielding.

    I wanted the Braves to eat half of Lowe’s salary, and field this same basic team they’re fielding, but with Vazquez. But other than that, I can’t complain. They’re aggressive, creative, and trying to get something done in a limited market, while protecting (even improving) the future. But, even if I hated the offseason completely, I couldn’t conclude that Wren is some slickster with no real desire to field a winning team.

    We could pull about this same attendance with Moylan and Capps pitching the 8th and 9th. Or we could have insisted on the best major league ready package for Vazquez, and put more on the 2010 field without considering the real value of the return. 99% of the fans don’t give three craps about snagging a 19-year-old hotshot from the Yankees for 2013. You know who cares about that guy? Our GM, who wants to build a winning organization patiently, carefully, thoughtfully.

    p.s. Bay’s and Holliday’s contracts will both be regretted by their teams. Especially if it’s not the Mets, Yanks, or Sox. They’re not that freaking great. They’re just the best on the market, so everybody’s lost their damn minds.

  37. 37
    Bubdylan Says:

    Uh, scratch all that, Curt.

    I just remembered you said he was mailing in 2010 with an eye to the next year. So, that makes nonsense of me saying Wren’s plans for our future go against your theory.

    I’m finished. I just really, really, really think Atlanta’s putting a better team on the field than many of my fellow bloggers. These guys aren’t slouches, man. These are good ballplayers.

    If we get Nady, we’ll be better than the Giants, Cubs, Brewers, Rockies, Marlins and Mets. We’ll get to the playoffs. And if we don’t get Nady, money in the pocket is no bad thing when midseason comes around and you’re sitting on minor leaguers you can spare in a swap.

  38. 38
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Why is my comment awaiting moderation?

    Basically, I wanted to know what commercials for the Braves are like? I don’t live near ATL, and I think maybe because advertising sucks that fans don’t show…

  39. 39
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I justed realized Bubdylan is a pun!

    Haha, I’m slow…

  40. 40
    Bubdylan Says:

    heh, that’s pretty bad, Jurrjens4NLCY. I realized your name meant “Jurrjens for Normalcy” right away.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    What’s that supposed to mean?

  42. 42
    Urrjens4NLCYJay Says:

    Oink Oink!

  43. 43
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I felt the need to do that

  44. 44
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Between Bub and I we got like 30 comments –

    We need something to do…

    (setting bub up)

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    Bubdylan Says:

    You guys know N8 from the DOB blog, right? Anyway, he posted this little bit ago, and I thought it was pretty interesting. Sorry for the length, I don’t know how to link straight to that entry. Even if you don’t come to the same conclusion, there’s some interesting information in there.


    In the end, winning games is about run differential. Some teams score more runs. Some teams are better at run prevention.

    Last year, the Braves were one of the best at run prevention, and their defense was mediocre at best. Which goes to state how great their pitching was.

    Of the 8 teams that made the playoffs, the Braves (+94) had a better run differential than both St. Louis (+90) and Colorado (+89). Which tells me, that we’re close. We’re real close.

    Now. How does one gain such a postive RD? Simple math states that you score more than your opponent. The Braves had one of the best rotations and from the mid point on, bullpens in baseball.

    In the first 81 games, the Braves went 43-45. They scored 373 and allowed 379 runs (-6). In the second half (81 games), they went 43-31 while scoring 362 runs and allowing 262 (+100).

    So, let me get this straight, just so we’re clear. After adding McLouth, moving Prado to a starting role and trading for LaRoche, the “2nd half” Braves scored a whopping 11 runs mor than the group that played the first 81 games?

    Seems to me, it was the pitching (more likely Tommy Hanson’s arrival – than LaRoche’s), that sparked the run. Along with Moylan, Gonzo and Soriano being pretty reliable out in the pen.

    My point is, that even though we lost Vazquez, we’re gaining two more months of Hanson’s services, and I’d be willing to bet that Hudson’s ERA is around 3.50 – 3.75 (meaning that Hudson will only minus around 30 runs to the run differential). Playing better defense (Melky if he stays provides that), gaining some steady bats (a Chipper rebound and Prado everyday – along with a possible boost from Heyward) will make up that 30 runs over a 162 games season.

    There isn’t any reason to belive that the Braves as currently constructed, without Wren making another move, can’t finish in the same +100 or so vicinity in run differential. They just might have to go about reaching that total in a different manner in 2010.

    If there is less dropoff from Vazquez to Hudson than I noted, Lowe rebounds, Chipper rebounds and Glaus gives us anything (not to mention I seriously doubt Wren is done), there is a chance that we INCREASE the run differential. Thus winning more games.

    Enough to catch the Phillies? Unlikely.

    Enough to keep pace with the Brewers, Giants, Rockies and Marlins in the wildcard race? Yeah. I’ll put money on that.


  46. 46
    Tcc Says:

    So, there’s no hope, but there’s some reason to be optimistic. The Front Office has mailed it in but they’re still looking for the Northwest Passage to a “Big Bat”. I got it!

  47. 47
    Tcc Says:

    Curt, you didn’t have to tell us that you posted as Anonymous..we had that one figured out. Now, please, please, please don’t take this in a bad way, but on the podcast when you said “no room to pick up a fricking 1st baseman to play for you” I swear I had an image in my brain of Dr Evil. It just sort of sounded like his voice. Probably just poor audio quality. Seriously, I laughed out loud and played it back several times. You made my day!

    Go Braves!

    ps: Steve, thanks for trying to keep everything positive and could you pass the xanax?

  48. 48
    Tcc Says:

    Also, good point about Hudson. Right now, and all things being equal (money wise), who would you rather have. Vazquez or Huddy? Anybody?

  49. 49
    Bubdylan Says:

    Man I can’t believe we just traded away our best hitter on the team, right after he has his career year, for a center fielder and pitching prospect. Edgar, good luck buddy, I know you’ll have another year just like this…

    Oh, sorry, right blog, wrong year.

  50. 50
    Tcc Says:

    Bub, “you gotta get your mind right”

  51. 51
    Boss Says:

    UGA gittin’ their minds right by puttin’ a whuppin’ on T A&M!

  52. 52
    Bubdylan Says:

    If any of you guys are Wins Above Replacement fans, here’s a neat list:

  53. 53
    Steve Says:

    Leah and JJ, Anne is right. My buddy Scott is the voice of the intro and the outro. We’ve been friends since I moved to Atlanta in ’92. He did a bunch of shows early on (more so during the House of Braves Talk days, prior to the name change). He’s also a very, very good actor. Here’s a clip of Scott from the Swamp Thing TV show from the early ’90’s. He’s the one doing most of the talking in the opening scene (who cuts his finger off and has an electrode on his head – trust me, just watch the first couple of minutes):

    Bub- I love that entry from N8. He’s one of the best guys on DOB’s blog.

    Tcc: it’s a great question. One we should have posed on the show, frankly. All things be equal, if we could have Vazquez or Hudson for the next three years, I go with Vazquez. Hands down. I know that Huddy’s career numbers are far superior and last year may have been an anomaly for VAzquez, but he was so damn dominant and reliable, I go with that and take Vazquez. But, of course, there’d be no 3 years of Vazquez for 27mil. I think that the Hudson extension was a very wise one.

  54. 54
    Bubdylan Says:

    Just for fun:

  55. 55
    Bubdylan Says:

    *holds out hands like Marlon Brando screaming for Stella in “Streetcar”*


  56. 56
    Steve Says:

    Quick movie stuff: Go see Up in the Air. Smart, funny, clever – really, really good.

  57. 57
    Bubdylan Says:

    Music. Now movies. If somebody brings up Barbeque we’re in big trouble.

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    I like baseball Says:

    Awe Bub…I do love it when you miss me. We were at a friends house for dinner and a rousing game of Guesstures. It was awesome. So I’m just now catching up on all the chatter, which took a while due to your small novel. I’m with you 100%. I have to believe that next year the team will be better. Maybe I’m naive or just not as smart as Curt but I feel better about it. I wasn’t being sarcastic in my question above. Do we trust the team docs? Shouldn’t they be able to tell at least to some degree if Glaus is good to go?

    Never heard of “Up in the Air” and I like ketchup based. This NC style is for the birds…mustard or vinegar based.

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    I like baseball Says:

    Wow Scott…that’s some weird finger (that’s what she said). Hmmm…too many glasses of wine brings out silly Leah.

  60. 60
    Bubdylan Says:

    *laughing at Silly Leah*

    (The Barbeque thing was in reference to DOB’s blog, which always digresses in the direction of music, movies, or barbeque.)

    That said, you like the sweet stuff over the vinegar-based? We’re through.

    (… till my next beer…)



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    Bubdylan Says:

    p.s. Your worst fears are true. Curt is smarter (more realistic) than both of us. Such is life.

  62. 62
    Bubdylan Says:

    p.p.s. However, Wren is NOT mailing in the 2010 season. Is not.

  63. 63
    Paul Lentz Says:

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  64. 64
    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, that scene with your buddy is so win! B-tele rules.

  65. 65
    will Says:

    I read all these posts first and so maybe my expectations were really low, but I don’t think this pod cast was overly negative – it is consistent with the mixed message the trades send. Everything Curt said needs to be said, with the appropriate passion/frustration. Steve was a good foil to bring up the other sides of the arguments and delivers with a more measured, calmer tone. And Hammy summed it up – we have to wait and see. Which adds to the frustration, but could provide a positive surprise. Nice job again, guys. Happy New Year.

  66. 66
    will Says:

    I don’t personally think they are mailing it in. But they are gambling quite a bit. And some of the gambles seem high risk, but without the chance of very high return. That bothers me.

  67. 67
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    What gambles are high risk, low reward?

    Troy Glaus = Low risk* – Very high reward.

    Billy Wagner = High risk, Very high reward

    Takashi Saito = Low risk, Very high reward

    Scott Proctor = very low risk, Medium reward

    Juan Abreu = very low risk, Medium reward. And he’s a prospect

    Mitch Jones, Brent Clevlen, Joe Thurston = Very low risk – Medium reward

    *Assuming the Braves don’t add another bat. If Glaus goes down at any point before the trade deadline for anything more serious than a 15 day disabled list trip, it’s naive to think that Wren wouldn’t find a suitable option for 1B ala Nate McLouth. Someone like Connor Jackson to hold down the fort, whilst keeping Prado at 2B and Omar as a versatile bench piece, would be realistic.

    Here is a very good link showing 2010 NL East WAR:

    That’s providing that the rosters stay the same.

    If the Braves can add someone like Nady, they should add about 2 wins above a replacement player, 4 if were very lucky. That would bring the Braves to about 91 – 92 wins. Boy that felt good to say. 91 to 92 wins. Ahh.

  68. 68
    I like baseball. Says:

    Will, I think you are right that Curt made some valid, logical points. You HAVE to admit he could NOT have been more negative. I like Curt’s general glass mostly empty perspective because it keeps me grounded. I’m usually way too optimistic and come crashing down when reality hits. I wanted a big bat (ahem) and am disappointed but I’m believing that everything that could go wrong won’t. Something will, it always does. But not everything (I love you baseball gods).

  69. 69
    Bubdylan Says:

    No, Leah, come back to the light.

    Blatant homerism is the happiest place on Earth.

    I’ll just say this, there is just as strong a psychological feeding going on in cynicism as there is in homerism. The cynic’s battle cry is “I’m just being realistic, calling a spade a spade.” But you can’t believe everybody who calls something a spade is the guy with the balanced view.

    Protecting your hopes from getting too high doesn’t work worth a damn anyway. If it did, a hardboiled egg like Curt wouldn’t be disgusted with the offseason moves because he’d have never believed Wren in the first place.

    As for chance-taking, if you want a championship now AND a future in the farm AND you’ve got 90 million to spend, you’re gotta roll the dice.

  70. 70
    Bubdylan Says:

    #69 sounded personal, Curt. I hope the tone isn’t coming off sh*ttier than I mean. Come to think of it, a lot of these comments of mine are like that. Sorry if I’ve gone over the line. Last think I want is to act like some on the DOB.

  71. 71
    Bubdylan Says:

    Interesting poll results. Of course, the Mets fan base showing is washed out by Yankees people, but Floridian Homerism isn’t worth 50%?

  72. 72
    I like baseball. Says:

    Bub, I didn’t think it sounded personal. Passionate…just in the opposite direction.

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    will Says:

    Jurrens4NLCY – I was thinking more about the Glaus and Melky trades. Glaus – seems he has quite a lot of risk – injury, never really played the position as Curt points out- so you have a decent potential for that trade to be nearly worthless – I would say as high as say 25-30%. He has a moderate chance of being a big offensive threat, sort of a 10% chance hes a huge bat, over 35 homers, maybe 10-15% chance hes a very solid bat, 26-28 homers, but odds seem even at 50% that he hits 22 homers and .260. Not bad. but not great. All that exciting averageness with a 25% injury risk where the trade totally flames out. Optimists – tend to focus only on that 10-20% huge bat/very solid bat probability, and forget about the rest of the 80%. Pessimists may look at only the negatives. Realists look at all of it as a package of risk/reward, and then ask, at what price? I will be as happy as anybody when my armchair option pricing model is wrong and we get a huge year from Glaus. But my gut says there is a lack of significant upside to compensate me for the higher probability he is just a little better than average. So bit too much risk for not enough upside. That is what I meant for Glaus. Granted, all of this can be argued to be in his low price. But why are we paying for all this low price uncertainty, and paying super high prices for guys like Lowe (and possibly KK too…). Glaus was not an emphatic move, to say the least. We wanted emphatic. For the Gipper!

    As for Melky, he hasnt (yet, he says optimistically) demonstrated much power, so its more a risk that your salary dump/get rid of a great player for an slightly above average player, wait and see tactic never pays off. Which may seem conservative, but actually is a fairly high risk way of playing things in my view. Not in the driver’s seat, too conservative, too — not emphatic. If that is proper English…

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    will Says:

    Note: all % in the above post are pulled right out of my rear end. Which is why Wren could (fingers crossed) surprise us…

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I just visited the depth charts of the Cubs, Brewers, Giants, and Rockies. You want to see some question marks, sheesh, try that exercise.

    Do you guys know how few NL teams look as solid as the Bravos right now? I know the offseason is still going, but go and take a peek at some of these teams’ starting eight, rotations, and bullpens.

    It’s troubling that the Marlins, Mets (they’ll land something big soon) and even the Nats are going to make it tough to net the wins we need for the Wild Card, but even so, our team is in solid shape when you step outside the shadow of the Phillies. Stud ballplayers just aren’t hanging out on everybody’s rosters.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Mets got Bay. Working on Zambrano.

    My tummy hurts.

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Again Bub…picture of child screaming it’s head off.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Forget everything I said. My new expression to Frank Wren:

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Awesome picture of KK. Love it. Sorry I link so much.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Why are we upset?

    Because the Mets signed Bay?
    Because we didn’t sign Bay?

    I don’t care honestly, Minaya loves to give out expensive vesting options, and I love watching him do it. I give Bay a few months before he starts making them regret that contract. Knowing NY, if he doesn’t go 4 – 4 with 4 HRs in his first game, they’ll tear his head off.

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    Curt Says:

    Sorry to have missed so much. Family trip and sick 2 year old, and all.

    Bub, I take none of this personally. This whole exercise for Steve, Ham and myself is to generate talk and response, feedback. We all want the same thing – for the Braves to win, and win a championship. There is no doubt in that. We just express it differently. I am more idealistic in that I think they can and should have done more with this off season. There is still plenty of time for them to add pieces and I look forward to Frank filling out this roster. The prospects of Bay and Zambrano playing for the Mets gives me pause, but they have more resources than we do. I accept all that, begrudgingly.

    Liberty Media has lots of money and can afford to spend whatever they want. You talk about them dropping payroll when attendance dropped. Attendance did not drop until the 2000 season, long after the days of championships were in the picture. The 1999 team far exceeded expectations by making the WS, and showed it in the sweep. The last championship caliber team was the 98 team. The Braves also still are among the top-5 teams in merchandise behind only the likes of the Yanks, Sox, Cubs, and Dodgers. Another revenue stream.

    I don’t know where I’m going with all that, other than to say that working in PR, you have to give people reasons to show up, not the other way around. So it would behoove ownership to make a splash and show people that they are committed to making a championship run, not a WC run. The Glaus thing was met with a huge round of indifference. Not what you want.

    I’m hoping that this pitching is as sound as it was last year. That Lowe and Chipper have huge bounce back seasons. That Melky plays solid defense and provides a spark plug in the 7 or 8 hole. That Glaus makes that transition to 1st, hits .280 and 30 homers. And that the end of the bullpen with Moylan is in shutdown mode all season.

    DOB has some great stuff on the young arms, including the kid they got from the Yankees, and says that by 2012 we could have an overpowering rotation with JJ and Hanson. I love that stuff.

    But I honestly believe the Braves are hoping to compete this year knowing they have two studs in the wings, and are hoping to build around them in a youthful, exciting, and cheaper fashion.

    I will be there all season rooting the on and hoping that all the pieces fall perfectly in place.

    Keep all the comments coming. This has been great stuff.

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    will Says:

    I think Chipper can rebound, and maybe Lowe.

    We obviously need to accept that Lowe will be in the rotation and try to support him. He seems a bit of a head case, no? Affair, divorce, remarriage, champion, then overpriced petulant albatross underperformer whining about his feelings being hurt…which pisses everybody off…. how can we as fans help him get his head in a better place? Its no surprise Wren couldn’t move him…but we gotta rehab him. It sucks because hes about as old as Glavine when Glavine started his decline.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “Affair, divorce, remarriage, champion, then overpriced petulant albatross underperformer whining about his feelings being hurt…which pisses everybody off….”

    Sigh. He is a right dislikable chap, isn’t he?

    I’m not so much worried about him this year as the next two. Oy. Things could get very dark in the D. Lowe chapter before it’s done.

    Roll Tide.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt, thanks for the kind reassurance.

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    Tcc Says:

    “I’m hoping that this pitching is as sound as it was last year. That Lowe and Chipper have huge bounce back seasons. That Melky plays solid defense and provides a spark plug in the 7 or 8 hole. That Glaus makes that transition to 1st, hits .280 and 30 homers. And that the end of the bullpen with Moylan is in shutdown mode all season.”

    Curt…was that you?? Are you feeling ok?? Just kidding of course. We kid you about your cynicism, but as you say: We all want the Braves to bring home the prize.

    I appreciate all the great posts on here.

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Lowe just gets better and better. Thanks Will for the enlightenment. What was he saying about mechanics a few weeks ago? It seems the triad thought it was a viable argument. I’ll forgive his personal disgressions if he can throw that leather sphere past Jason Bay.

    How many days Tcc?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    One thing, Curt; the 1999 team far exceeded expectations by making the WS? They won 103 games that year.

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    Tcc Says:

    52, give or take a moment!

    “The Braves also still are among the top-5 teams in merchandise behind only the likes of the Yanks, Sox, Cubs, and Dodgers.” Curt today.

    “Why the heck do I have all this stupid stuff???” Tcc after a bad Braves loss.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I’m going to enjoy Glaus slapping balls over Bay’s head. Maybe even more so than watching Mighty Mac (My new nickname for McCann) ripped ones over Frenchy’s head…

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    Wiley Says:

    KJ to Arizona?

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    Wiley Says:

    thats what the Arizona Republic reports

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    The Avett Brothers Says:

    I am sick with wanting and it’s evil and it’s daunting
    How I let everything I cherish lay to waste
    I am lost in greed, this time it’s definitely me
    I point fingers but there’s no one there to blame

    Temporary is my time
    Ain’t nothin on this world that’s mine
    Except the will I found to carry on
    Free is not your right to choose
    It’s answering what’s asked of you
    To give the love you find until it’s gone

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    Curt Says:

    They might have won 103 games, but no one expected them to be in the WS that year.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Yes, KJ is close to a deal with ARZ


    Did you know that in 2005 the Yankees and the Red Sox made up 53% of all of baseballs merchandise sales, that’s crazy!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “They might have won 103 games, but no one expected them to be in the WS that year.”

    I did :)

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, that’s a great tune. I’m gonna put it on right now.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Anyone know where I can find the top making revenue teams in 2009?

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    Curt Says:

    You know, I read that revenue stuff last year. I was completely surprised that the Braves were still so popular nationally. We’ll see how long they can sustain that with the Superstation cutting all their games and their post-season drought. But their unis are still classic, save the beer league softball Sunday red jerseys.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:


    The majority of Braves sales aren’t from actual Braves’ fans. Wearing the Atlanta “A” is a fashion statement for ghetto people and rappers. All over my school people wear the “A” hats. I, unknowingly thinking they’re Braves’ fans, ask them what they think the Braves should do in the offseason, and they give me the stupidest look. I just roll my eyes and shrug it off. I ran into a guy who has a tattoo of the Braves’ “A” on his wrist, it’s because his name was Allen… :roll:

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt, we can agree on the Sunday reds. I wrote a not-so-funny bit on the red uni’s for the DOB blog way back, but I can’t remember much of it.

    It ended with “The Braves red uni’s are so bright, the sun said ‘DAMN!'”

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I just read the finances of the Bay contract!


    That’s a bad bad bad deal…

    Bay isn’t worth more than 13M a year, man he’s got a good agent that can take advantage of intelligently challenged GM. (You see? I was PC, ;) )

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    I like baseball. Says:

    How’s the 2 year old Curt? Hate it when kids are sick.

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    Anonymous Says:

    JJ – that might be the case, but that doesn’t change the color of the money. Whether it’s a hat for my kid or for T Pain (is there such a person?) it’s still money going to the team.

    Hopefully Bay pulls a Beltran and never lives up to the money. The Mets love throwing money after money to get nothing concrete out of it.

    2 year old is better. Thanks. I think he is ready to be home in his own bed, as we all are.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    I think the correct spelling it “T-Payne”

    I have no idea.

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Those of you on Twitter have probably seen this. I think it’s well said and I have a sneaking suspicion Curt is the ghost writer.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    That’s a good article. I have to admit it’s pretty convincing, even if it backs my favorite Podcast Villain.

    I would only add that teams in “the year before their supposed to be really good” often go ahead and become really good. How many times have you heard it said, “… and this wasn’t even supposed to be their year. Next year was when everybody said it was on track to come together.”

    Go Braves. 2010 or 2011. Hell, we’ve already waited this long.

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    Curt Says:


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    I like baseball. Says:

    Can we have AG midseason? Please? Is that even an option?

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    I like baseball. Says:

    I’m sorry if I keep posting stuff you’ve already seen but I wanna know if you guys agree with this assessment.

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    Tcc Says:

    I actually like the Woodford Reserve League MLB Sunday Red unis. For a while it seems like that spot fell to Smoltz when he still had his good stuff. Sure, it’s a marketing thing but I have good memories of having the tv on in the garage/basement and the earbuds in, listening to the radio broadcast while I would do yard work. When something big happened I would run back inside to see the replay.

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    I like baseball Says:

    THANK YOU TCC! I was too embarrassed to say it but I like the red unis also! Of course, I’m also a fan of church softball so it makes sense.

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    Bubdylan Says:

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Bub, are you mourning the loss of KJ today?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Yeah, kind of.

    My honest hope is that he’ll become a .290 hitter with consistent pop, and that somebody in the F.O. will finally wake up concerning our hitting coach.

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    Tcc Says:

    Bub, not sure about your point there. Red, yes but they don’t have that home grown look which we love, right? One of the most important things my dad passed down to me was the love of a tomato sandwitch with mayo and a thin slice of vidalia onion. Man! I can’t wait for that!

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    Tcc Says:

    Opinions please: What do we think about TP as a Manager vs a hitting coach?

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Tcc, have you heard the song “Home Grown Tomatoes”? My dad used to sing it when I was little.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    No, no, no to TP as a manager. The Francoeur thing was enough to show that. He’s too timid, passive aggressive. He got his feelings hurt with Frenchy about the Texas guy and just held it in and let it fester. And then made a second mistake by admitting that to the press. Too personal. Too icky.

    We need a guy who is either very relaxed or else very confident (both would be nice). TP is neither.

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    I like baseball. Says:

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Yes, tomato sandwiches are the best, w/ black pepper.

    But I like kiwi, too. Not for a uniform color.

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    Tcc Says:

    Checked it out, ILB. Great sentiment there! Bub, so do we go “home grown” with Fredi Gonzales? Snitker? Or someone from the outside?? Who would that be?

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    Tcc Says:

    Good night all..bedtime and hoping not to wake up to ice or snow!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I don’t know much about Fredi, but from what little I know, I like the idea. What about Eddie P?

    (I’m running downstairs to do laundry, so I’ll pick up here later. Congrats on your Tigers’ win over Kentucky. Ruined my hopes at an SEC sweep, though.)

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    Bubdylan Says:




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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:




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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    The number one reason why Vasquez will get destroyed in NY:

    He is a flyball pitcher 1st, and a strikeout pitcher 2nd.

    And in that park, Vasquez style flyballs are HRs

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I don’t think he’ll get destroyed. He’s never gotten destroyed, even in NY when he was relied as a higher up in the rotation.

    I think he’ll be plenty servicable. I just don’t think he does much for them in terms of a championship. I don’t think he’ll be great in the post season. But he might surprise us. He’s surrounded by enough talent to calm him down, maybe.

    If the Yankees are so good they are on cruise control, I think Javy will be okay. And unfortunately they’ll probably be that good. It’s a disgusting collection of hired guns.

    But I can’t see him excelling in the playoffs. Javy, that is. There is no cruise control in a 5-7 game set. The old demons will return. I hate it for him, but I love it for his team.

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    I like baseball. Says:


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    Bubdylan Says:

    Hey Now Yunel Escobar?

    He’s Not Your Elephant?

    Hungry Ned Yearningly Eats?

    *scratches head*

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    Wiley Says:

    I think it means something along the lines of Happy New Year ABT, Bub.

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    Bubdylan Says:


    Happy New Year!!!

    :) :) :)

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Have I mentioned that Bub makes me laugh? ABT is one of my favorite things about 2009. Hey BD, guess where I am going tonight. I’ll give you a hint… “I wanna have friends that I can trust. Who love me for the man I’ve become not the man that I was.”

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    Bubdylan Says:

    guess where I am going tonight. I’ll give you a hint… “I wanna have friends that I can trust. Who love me for the man I’ve become not the man that I was.”

    You’re getting a sex change? Nooooooooooooooooooooo….

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Seriously, the Avetts? Awesome. Have a great time!

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Haha. I will. I’ll drink a Corona in your honor. Not that you won’t be drinking plenty yourself.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Cheers. Here’s to the Braves.

    A poem:

    Two Thousand and Ten,
    We’re mailin’ it in!


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    I like baseball. Says:

    Come on Bub…you can do better. Try again and this time your poem must include the words Heyward, win and bubbly.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    We raise up to Heyward our bubbly,
    If he starts out great we might win,
    Otherwise it’s lookin’ troubly,
    Something something something Frank Wren.

    I’m too drunk for this. Sorry. 8)

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Good enough. Drunk already? You’ll never make it to midnight.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Oh, I can stay drunk for a good little while. That’s… good … I guess …

    Roll Braves!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    My New Year’s resolution: leave baseball alone until pitchers & catchers report.

    I mean, it sounds at least easier than quitting drinking!

    See you all when… (complete that sentence for me…)

    Go Braves!!!!!

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Nooooooooooooooooo! That better be a joke BubDylan! HNY ABT! Thanks to the Triad…yes even Eeyore.

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    Steve Says:

    Happy New Year, everyone. Sitting here stuck on a work call. Not exactly what I wanted to do at 1:51am on 1/1/10. Sigh.

    I too dislike the Sunday red unis. Bottom line, it simply doesn’t look like a color that exists in baseball to me.

    And, I’m not too worried about the Bay signing either. The whole large ballpark coupled with the snakebitten nature of the Mets franchise (not to mention that they still have no pitching) – I’m not too worked up about this.

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Yuck Steve. That’s no fun. Glad you’re not worried about Halliday. If a NY team wins the trophy this year I’m divorcing baseball.

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    Wiley Says:

    I hope Chipper knows what he’s talking about

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    Steve Says:

    Wiley – I’m with you. And I’ve got to say, I’m believing it hook, line and sinker. As big a sucker as I am for the “coming into Spring Training in the best shape of his life,” stories, I’m even MORE susceptible to the “coming back stronger to prove everyone wrong about last year,” scenario. Which is one reason I believe that Lowe will win 26 games this coming season.

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    Curt Says:

    I believe it more with Chipper than Lowe. Add in the “Chipper wanting to send Bobby off in the right way” factor, which I’m hoping carries over to the whole team, and Chipper’s track record.

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Curt, you still believe it with Lowe to some degree right?

    Bub, we will see you in October but we will hear from you Much, much, much sooner…right? Right? Bub? Crap.

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    Steve Says:

    Leah – I know you asked Curt, but I’ll chime in, too. I believe it much, much more with Chipper. My false sense of knowing Chipper the human being in some way because I’ve watched him on TV for so many years leads me to believe that he will not allow another year like the last. His sheer desire and determination will lead to a much better season. And, to a lesser degree, I believe that Lowe will be pitching with a big chip on his shoulder this coming year and will bounce back significantly. Which may lead to the same W/L total, but much better stats behind the wins and losses.

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    I like baseball. Says:

    Now that football is over what will you guys do for entertainment until the baseball starts. I’m going CRAZY! Cannot wait to see the boys take the field. I need Lowe to do something to redeem himself. Not sure what I require but definitely something that invokes shame. Do you think he feels any shame for his general sucktitude?

    Speaking of Javy…I have a friend who works with a guy who bought Javy Lopez’s hog and now they ride together. Cool huh.

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    Curt Says:


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    Wiley Says:

    I went to the hawks game tonight. Nate Robinson is ridiculous. As for me though Tech Baseball starts soon and I am a season ticket holder. If your desperate for baseball, I would stop by for a game. It is a great way to see future stars up close and personal. I like the pros a bit better, but these kids sure do love this game. Just like me, Im a fan of the game, not the mlb.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, I’m sure I’ll never stick to it.

    But this business of wearing out my clicker finger waiting for MLB Trade Rumors to suddenly say we did something cool, is for the birds.

    But, as I said, I’m sure I’ll never stick to it. It’s sweet of you to want me to stay. :)

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    Bubdylan Says:

    MLBTR notes that the Braves are one of only five teams to spend 20 million or more on a free agent so far this offseason (Huddy).

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    Bubdylan Says:

    *not that I go to that site much.

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    BD's #1 fan Says:

    I’m going crazy with withdrawl! I might have to go watch an old game or something. It’s like when I was a kid on a long trip and half way through you start banging your head against the window out of sheer boredom.

    Bub, how do you think KJ will like Az?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, I hope KJ will like it out there. Seems like a decent city for recovering your game. Don’t know much about their management team. Hopefully they’ll let him cultivate his old, patient approach.

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    Tcc Says:

    I agree, Bub. Remember when KJ first came up and looked so good. He was a great power prospect. Then the injury and he was moved around position wise. I wish him well. Maybe the West will be good for him.

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    I like baseball Says:

    ajcbraves (aka DOB) latest tweet:

    Braves OF trio of MelkyC/McLouth/Diaz and possibly rook Heyward pales compared to Phillies’ & Mets’ OFs. Braves trying to add another bat.

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    Tcc Says:

    I say we’re better, just ’cause it’s US! Dammit!

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    Tcc Says:

    “98.6 and risin’, down by Boulder Dam that night.”

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    Tcc Says:

    Sorry if that’s too vague a reference for you younger folks. Expected low tonight: 9 degrees. Reminds me of Gordon Lightfoot’s song: 10 Degrees and Getting Colder.

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    Wiley Says:

    Anybody know any good baseball literature? I am looking for a good read and currently I am leaning towards The Game, Robert Benson’s book about the appreciation and his “love affair” with the game.

    As for the bat. I hope its damon. Is that too much to ask? Too much to Gamble? Too expensive? I mean there has to be something wrong with it, if it hasn’t been mentioned yet. Show me the err of my ways guys.

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    I like baseball Says:

    Wiley, I haven’t read that book yet but maybe it will help with my current state of “AAHHHHHHHHH, I NEED BASEBALL”. “Beyond Belief” by Josh Hamilton is a good read. A lot of it is direct quotes from Hamilton (the player as apposed to ‘his brilliancy’ the host of this podcast) so it’s, shall I say, an easy, quick read. “The Blind Side” by Michael Lewis is not about baseball but is absolutely spectacular. It also helped me understand football which makes the Rev very happy :)! If all else fails do what I do and pick up your trusty copy of Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen. Elizabeth, Jane, Mr. Darcy and the lot are always great company.

    Tcc…I figured that was some lyric from some old guy written decades ago but I appreciate your clearing it up for me.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, bravo on the G. Lightfoot reference. Ever hear Tony Rice’s album of Lightfoot covers? It has that one on it. Blistering guitar all through.

    Leah, I’m reading P & P right now. I’m at Lizzy’s initial refusal of Collins’ proposal.

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    BD's #1 fan Says:

    “…you are the last sort of man I could ever be prevailed upon to marry.”. Yes, that is from memory. Bub, peas in a podcast.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I may not have made it to that line. I’m glad to hear she said it, though. What a ding-a-ling Collins, is, huh? I was in the middle of that conversation when I had to leave for more family stuff.

    So far, she’s just working that “Lady So-and-So (De Bourgh?) wouldn’t approve of me anyway” angle, and he’s all like “I know every girl refuses at first” and she’s all like, “no, I’m being serious” … and then I had to close the book. I’m looking forward to getting back to it cuz before that proposal, I was getting reeeeeealllly impatient for something to happen besides conversations about conversations. (I like slow books, but … )

    It’s my first try at an Austen novel. I like all the movies, though. Especially Emma Thompson’s S & S, and Paltrow’s Emma. (Knightly’s P & P is my least favorite of the movie versions, but I like it okay. But that’s why I picked that one as the novel to try.)

    Yup, peas in a podcast.

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    BD's #1 fan Says:

    You know, now that I think of it the line I quoted is her response to another proposal. Collins is almost as ridiculous as Mrs. Bennett. The A&E version of P & P is the best…7 hours of scandal and vexation. Their version of Emma with Kate Beckensale is way better than Paltrow. It always bugs me when the hero is shorter than the heroin. Have you seen Mansfield Park? It’s my favorite but you have to remember back in the day it was quite common for 1st cousins to marry. Stick with Jane. The story may get slow at times but her wit will carry you through. The movie Becoming Jane is really good also if you haven’t seen it. It’s a tear jerker but explains a lot of her sad story lines.

    Too funny…

    Have fun with the family.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Sorry, but I can’t go with the Beckensale Emma over Paltrow. Even if Brunettes do make me crazy. The lead dude in Paltrow’s version is one of my favorite underknown actors. And Toni Colette is my future bride.

    I believe you about the megalong P & P, though. I’ve seen some of it.

    I couldn’t get too interested in “Becoming Jane” but maybe I’ll look again.

    As for sticking with Jane, I will. Her prose has a calming effect, and reading her makes me pay attention to my own motives, etc.

    About to go back to the apartment and school business starts tomorrow, classes on Wednesday, never been so ready to go back. A month is too long.

    Okay, so, Go Braves!

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    The timestamps say 2010, that’s so cool!

    Sorry. I’m amused by little things.

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    Crazy 4 bball Says:

    Who does Toni Colette play? Let me be the first to wish you joy. Mr. Knightly’s funniest lines in Paltrow’s Emma aren’t directly from the book. I feel that is a good movie but, for me, strays a bit too far from the book. Man, now I want to go read them all again. Gotta love the classics.

    JJ? Timestamps? What am I missing. I’m a little slow sometimes.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, I answered you wonderfully, but I’m “awaiting moderation.” Everything in moderation, I always say. *rolling eyes*

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    Crazy 4 bball Says:

    Guess what tomorrow is ABT! I mean it…guess.

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    Tcc Says:

    46 days ’til pitchers and catchers report?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Your birthday.

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    Crazy 4 bball Says:

    Bub, I’m a full throttle kinda gal with no filter. It get’s me in trouble more times than not.

    Tcc, yes… and?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I’ll give you a dollar to go back to “Leah”

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “Bub, I’m a full throttle kinda gal with no filter.”

    Not me. I filter. Unfortunately beer breaks my filter.

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    Enjoys bugging BD Says:

    Where is the fun in that?

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    Bubdylan Says:


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    I like baseball Says:

    Leah’s boring so not cool like Bubdylan. If I could think of something super cool I would use it forever and ever.

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    Rachel Says:

    Leah had tender eyes, they say… 8)

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    I like baseball Says:

    I just realized I missed some comments. I like unfiltered Bub and your right…tomorrow is my birthday. See, no filter. Now you can all search the web and find my shoe size, favorite ice cream and first child’s middle name.

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    I like baseball Says:

    Leah needed glasses and Rachel was beautiful. However, she could sure pop out those younguns.

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    Rachel Says:

    Do I look feminine in this photo?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Just a post to retrieve my name. Yeesh. That messed me all up.

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    I like baseball Says:

    Thanks Bub and yes…you look quite feminine. I’m going to come up with a great name and wow you all.

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    MattChu Says:

    This is just my opinion.We need a better leadoff hitter and johnny damon fits the bill i know he is not great defensively but think his exp. at the top of the order could school teamates on team for the future

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    I like baseball Says:

    Welcome MattChu but what are you talking about? Oh, that’s right, baseball. Go BRAVES!

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    Babedylan Says:

    Can Damon play any 1B?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    The above name was part of an abandoned joke. Hate when that happens.

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    I like baseball Says:

    No fair! Now you have two super cool names!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    How about Baseball PLeah?

    Ugh, that’s awful.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “I’ll Diaz a Brave?”



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    Bubdylan Says:

    Carry on, my Heyward son?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Glaus Half Empty?

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    I like baseball Says:

    Baseball PLeah as in Playah? See it’s not as easy for those of us with boring names.

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    I like baseball Says:

    I like Glaus Half Empty but I thought I was a half full commenter.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Brick Leah?

    Well, I give up, I guess.

    I like “Leah.”

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    llabesab Leah Says:

    Maybe if Tcc tell us what his real name is then the creative juices would start flowing.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Speaking of which:

    Tcc, are you WNCBraves?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Alright, g’night, Leah. As my niece says, “HAPPILY BUFFDAY!!”

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Here’s some Glaus:

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    Bubdylan Says:

    One more. Here’s Wags fresh back from sugery.

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    Enjoys bugging BD Says:

    Glaus looks good in those clips. It seems he’s tall enough that if he just falls the right way he should shag at least some balls at first. I remember watching Wags pitch in that game against ATL. I thought, “now there’s a closer.”

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, I’m in the mood to talk a little more about Pride & Prejudice, but I can’t keep hijacking the comments section. (Not with this subject, anyway. I’m sure I’ll hijack it with something else later.)

    Would the Reverend mind an email exchange? I’m at

    *warming up orange & brown 1978 Dodge Van*

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Now, this comment and answer from the DOB blog is a little discouraging.

    “But here’s the thing. Has anybody considered the fact that perhaps Wren and Vazquez’s agent started negotiating on a long-term contract which Wren to realize that they weren’t very close in terms of the money?” N8

    DOB answers:

    “Nope, didn’t happen. I texted with Javy several times in weeks leading up to trade, including once a few days before the deal. He had heard nothing from Braves, either about an extension or being traded. His agent would not begin negotiations with the Braves without telling Javy, who had hoped Braves would approach him about an extension (he told me that late in season and again early in offseason).”

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I’m really, really close to tentatively changing my mind about Frank Wren.

    Here you have a veteran pitcher who Bobby reportedly always loved and coveted, and who comes here and outpitches expectations by miles, is comfortable, and wants to talk extension, and you send him to New York without so much as a phone call?

    I mean, I don’t expect that buying into a Javy extension based on his career year would have been smart, but to not even see what the starting $$ figures are? To not even gauge what his comfort in Atlanta is worth to him? A Javy/ Hudson veteran anchor, if affordable+ Hanson, Jurrjens & company??, … sheesh, what a pitching staff.

    I’m this close. If he makes another boneheaded move, I’m dropping him to about a C+ GM (not that anyone cares how I grade a GM). The Renteria trade is starting to fade in the rearview.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Sometimes, you gotta like the DOBster:

    Just got off the phone with D. Lowe, talked quite a bit. He’s got no hard feelings, has talked to Wren, etc. Said his frustration was just about possibly going to a city he had no desire to go to with three years left on his contract and having to leave Atlanta, where he thought he’d be for four years. But when I asked him if it was all water under the bridge now, he said, “There never really was water on the bridge to begin with.”

    He sounds perfectly fine, same as always, funny and sarcastic. Said he thought I might be the one traded. I said I’m getting old and my salary and declining performance last year prevented any such deal — much like with him. He replied with a “f*** you” and laughed.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    I guess maybe Lowe’s just a straight forward kinda guy with no filter. I actually respect that. I still think FW has something spectacular up his sleeve. Although I hate to think Javy wasn’t even approached and I hope he isn’t bummed to be in NY. Speaking of “the evil empire”, I thought they were going to keep Damon. You know, dig around and collect the proverbial pocket change for his salary.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I like it.

    Though… “Print Says Leah” is … well, a pun. And I’m allllll about the puns…

    But I like Princess Leah, which is still a minor pun, considering Luke’s sister spells hers differently.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Thanks Bub. It might just stick. You will all have to bow in October when we meet in the A-T-L.

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    Tcc Says:

    llabesab Leah, I told you many posts ago…you weren’t paying attention? I’m crushed!
    buB, no, I’m not that guy.

    Go Braves!

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Did you Tcc? I thought you just said it was a long story. Please don’t be crushed. I REALLY want to know. Remind me.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Braves’ AL opponents this year, if anybody didn’t know:

    Twins, Rays, Royals, White Sox, Tigers. June 11th – 27th

    Not TOO bad.

    No Yanksox, at least. Played the Yanksox NINE damn games in ’09.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    You know, I’m doubting that post I just made about the A.L. I thought we had some kind of “natural rivalry” thing going with Boston.

    I got it from the 2010 schedule posted at, so…

    Can anyone confirm?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    The Phils drew:

    Redsox, Yanks, Twins, Indians, Bluejays

    Shoot. No Mariners.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Question for you northerners: when you leave your faucet on a trickle so the pipes won’t freeze up, how much of a trickle are we talking?

    Just a drip-drip-drip?

    Or more of a skinny stream?

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    llabesab Leah Says:

    Bub, do you remember Tcc’s real name? It’s bugging me and he’s “crushed”. I’m not from the north but I say a drip…drip…drip to the point of great annoyance. I hope you’re right about the AL schedule.

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    Princess Leah Says:


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    Tcc Says:

    Bub, can’t speak for those in the Frozen North, but depending on expected low temps, somewhere between a drip-drip and a skinny stream should do it if you’re below the MDL.

    Yes, very good news about the “cursed interleague” business. Let the pHillies choke on the yAnksOx! Don’t know about ABT’s opinion of interleague play, maybe it was covered in a PC before I started listening. White Sox vs Cubbies? Interesting. mEts vs yAnks? Subway S**t, sure, but very appealing to the nEtworks. Personally I don’t like it. New and Different is almost never better, just more money in somebody’s pocket.

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    Tcc Says:

    Bub, also depends on if you have any exposed pipes. When I lived in Charleston, SC there were many older houses built before indoor plumbing. Pipes were literally added outside the house. Fine for most winters in the Sunny South but a disaster when Ole Man Winter crept in. You live where?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Princess Leah, Tcc’s real name is Reginald Badillion Traherne. I think.

    Okay, one vote for a drip and one for a tweener. Thanks kindly. I’ll play it safe and go with the middle. Ridiculous to be this cold in Alabama. I swore when I was in Montana I’d never curse another Alabama cold snap again. But I curse it all to heck.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    It’s an apartment, Reginald. No exposed pipes. I also opened the sink cabinets to let the room heat in, as I heard that helps.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Tcc…I know your trying to tell me something. I’m trying! I need a little more help.

    “It’s like he’s trying to speak to me, I know it!” Who said it Bub?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, I don’t like the interleague very much. And I agree with your general observation on novelty.

    Except I have to admit I’m a fan of the DH.

    *dodging tomatoes*

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Do capital letters that are supposed to be caps count?

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Come on…give us a hint. My mom and I are working very hard and coming up with nothing.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Dangit, Leah. I just saw whatever has that quote in it not long ago. But I can’t think of it. I refuse to google it. Lemme think…

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    yanksox Says:

    A mist of fine snow falling
    Falling like pHillies

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Ok…from #221 we’ve come up with “Poached Sea”…I’m guessing that’s not right. Thoughts from #230 Jack Hill?

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    Nancy Says:

    “These Boots Were Made for Walking” was never meant to be played at half time of any football game! Start Walkin’!!!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    His name … is Inigo Montoya…

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    Princess Leah Says:

    …prepare to die…

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Bub…do you want a hint?

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    Reggie Says:

    Roxanne, you don’T Have tO put on the Red light.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Yeah, I’ll take a hint. I can’t think of it. I know I JUST saw it, though.

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    goMon Says:

    fiNe corinthian leather!

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    Princess Leah Says:

    ROT! I got it. When will you realize I don’t know all that old music you and Bub listen to?

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Bub- “You’re really cute little guy but I’m trying to find my son.”

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, your name is Sting?

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Tcc- do I combine #236 and #238?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Oh, sheesh. You didn’t have to give THAT obvious a hint. That would be Nemo.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    I felt sorry for you and your weak “been out of school too long” brain. I almost said “Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming.”

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Mama says she thinks you’ve changed your name on us.

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    Tcc Says:

    so much to listen to (in the offseason) so little time to do it. I like the 8 B’s: Bach, Byrds, Beethoven, Beatles, Brahms, Beach Boys, Boyce and Benton Flippin.

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    thorn Says:

    maybe that was 9

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Mets get Orioles, Indians, Yanks, Tigers, Twins.

    Marlins get Rays, Rangers, Rays again, Orioles, White Sox. Weird, their White Sox series I found all the way stuck in May in the middle of nothing.

    I wonder if I’m finding all of them. Anybody know how many AL series each team plays? If it’s five, then all my posts are right.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, favorite Beatle’s Album? For me, Abbey Road, coming in slightly ahead of Rubber Soul.

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    Princess Leah Says:


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    Bubdylan Says:

    But… I did burn myself a copy of Abbey Road sans “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer.” And it was after THAT that it became my favorite…

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    Princess Leah Says:


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    thorn Says:

    haeL…some have confused me with the god of thunder and lightening..that was actually another guy.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Say no to Johnny Damon. When Heyward come in all blazing glory, I do NOT want to watch Diaz ride the bench while the lesser performing veteran gets the call all summer.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    My mom’s all of a sudden singing about a silver hammer coming on someone’s head…bang bang… HELP!

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    thorn Says:

    Howdy do!

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    Princess Leah Says:

    I don’t Bub…We still need a little help. Nobody looks ideal at this point.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I once blended an Oscar Mayer weiner into a “friend’s” strawberry milkshake. He said it tasted “funny.”

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    Tcc Says:

    so..when are you guys going to a game this year? Any chance of an ABT get together?

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    Princess Leah Says:

    I think Thorn Poached Sea Sting Montoya has had one too many tonight.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    You blog with your mom? Hi, mom.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    ABT get together scheduled for the first playoff game, Kyle.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Bub…don’t ever make me a milkshake. Besides, I’m trying to lose some of my 435 pound girth.

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    Steve Says:

    Welcome Nancy and MattChu (and Nancy providing a picture!, no less).

    To follow up on MattChu’s question, what do you all think about the Damon possibility that DOB is floating. Not the likelihood, but how satisfied would you be if Damon was the final piece? As compared to, say, Uggla or Dye?

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Mom’s in town for my big day. She even made me a cake. Her first Braves game was in WI when she was 7 years old. I’m going to some games and would love an ABT get together!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Uh oh. Dad’s here now. Everybody quiet.

    Uh… the podcast and the uh, Braves are, uh… in Atlanta for this week’s… baseball… topic.

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    Steve Says:

    Tcc – I know there’s been a lot floated around about all getting together when the Braves make it to the post season, but I’m all for a regular season get together as well.

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    Tcc Says:

    “funny” but nobody was laughing, I bet. Leah, your Mom is ok with me. I’m not Maxwell.

    Bub, I think JH will be a stretch for the opener but he is the rumbling you hear, coming down the pike.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, which of those can play 1B? (I really don’t know.) I mean, if we don’t pick up a 1B-playing OF, aren’t we reeeeeally pushing our luck?

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Cannot stop laughing at Bubdylan. Steve, as I was just telling the guys, I’m not against Damon. I can’t get mental pics of Uggla looking ugly on botched defensive plays that I could make. How old is Dye? He seems old not that Damon is young.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Steve, you obviously didn’t read ALL the comments on the board or you would have noticed that it is a very special day. All I want is an ABT t-shirt. Please and thank you (I think my pseudonym is getting to my head).

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    Tcc Says:

    Steve, wouldn’t Damon be a one year deal? Why would they do this now instead of earlier? Jeez, I still think that Chipper and Rochey would have worked out something at the ranch! Shoot Bambi and sign a contract! Too harsh, I guess.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Later that year…

    LaRoche: I mean, nobody held a gun to their heads and made them offer me…

    Chipper: *Ahem*

    LaRoche: … oh…

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Tcc, I think Damon is wanting a two year deal. Couldn’t he just platoon in the outfield and PH? It just doesn’t seem like we have enough players.

  275. 275
    Bubdylan Says:

    G’night, podcast. It’s been fun tonight. Everybody stay warm.

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    Tcc Says:

    Bub, Drip, drip!

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    Tcc Says:

    Leah, Bollocks to Damon. Take what he can get. FW should have done that deal before he ever started thinking about mElky and gLaus.

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    Steve Says:

    Leah, I’m so sorry, you’ll have to excuse me. Let me remedy this. Happy birthday, Sir Isaac Newton!

    Bub – Dye is the only one (of he, Damon and Uggla) with 1B experience. But if the additional offensive piece comes from a non first basemen, I have to believe that they’ll also sign some kind of insurance like a Nomar or Kevin Millar (assuming the money’s right) or really gamble on little injury time for Glaus and fill in with Prado as needed. I’m hoping for, at least, a veteran on the bench who can play some 1st.

    Leah – happy birthday!

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    Tcc Says:

    Wind blowing hard
    Hunkering down

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    Tcc Says:

    Happy Birthday, Leah

    it makes me think of the good old days
    Happy birthday to you
    You sure grew out of your baby ways
    Happy birthday to you

    It’s your birthday, we wish you many more
    Health and wealth and friends by the score
    Tune up the fiddle and lets dance some more
    Happy birthday to you

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Thanks guys. Tcc…your killing me. I’m not smart enough for your puzzle. Steve, I would love an ABT party before the playoffs, if silly chicks are allowed. I’m a bit limited due to distance but if I could make it I surely would.

  282. 282
    Steve Says:

    Leah – we are no sexist podcast. All are welcome.

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    Anne Says:

    Speaking of “all are welcome…” Good old Corky Miller is a free agent! Imagine THIS scenario and shudder with more than just the cold: David Ross goes to play first and Corky is our back-up catcher again. I just got chills. (they’re multiplying) (in a bad way)

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    Princess Leah Says:

    I know he’s not much on the field but I love Corky Miller. I know…I know. He was so kind to my adorable son before a game last year and signed his baseball. Right before the game Eddie Perez signed it also and threw it back to us. My kid dropped the ball and some other kid picked it up and ran off. One of us cried and the other almost cried. I sent the pic of my son and Corky to him with a self addressed stamped envelope (cause that’s the kind of mom I am) and goody ole Corky signed it and sent it back. I think I’ve already told this story before so sorry for the repeat. I would have sent a request to Eddie P also but I didn’t have a pic to back up my sad story. Oh well.

    Steve, do you want dates? The Rev has meetings in Atlanta June 1,2,3 (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday) so I could go (and likely will with or without my friends) to any of those games.

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    Wiley Says:

    Oh that would be huge Leah. That’s a Philly series. Exciting I hope. I predict a sweep for that. I can definitely make it!

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    Princess Leah Says:

    It IS huge (that’s what she said and I’m not even silly)! I was wondering how long it would take someone to realize the Phillies are in town that week.

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    Steve Says:

    Love it. Let’s make it so for that Phillies series at the start of June. I’m totally in.

    So, y’all been reading DOB’s blog? Frank says no money left, no big moves coming – this is the team. And it sounds like they are really, really hoping/planning that Heyward starts in the OF on Opening Day.

    It could all work out, but the lynchpin is really Glaus. If he gets hurt for a significant amount of time we’re in a lot of trouble.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Thank goodness Steve. I tried to comment a few times about an hour ago and couldn’t. I was afraid we killed the message board. I’m so excited about watching the Braves spank the Phillies in June at the TED! But I’m bummed Frank is done. I was hoping for a bit of magic out of his hat. I’m saying 100 Hail Marys every day for Glaus until opening day!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, yeah, I’ve been checking it out today. Not encouraging. It’ll be a decent team that’s fun to root for, but I can’t help feeling disappointed to come this close and not pull the trigger on a team that could catch the Phillies.

    No back up for Glaus … that’s just silly. I mean, I never expected Holliday or Bay, but to just pull out without Nady, Uggla, Cameron, Swisher, or any of the nice bats that we were thinking about … it’s pretty deflating.

    Go Braves.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Hey, we just signed Hinske. That’s something. I’m gonna go check it out…

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    Bubdylan Says:

    from Mark Polishuk at MLBTR (on CBS’s report that we’ve signed Eric Hinske):

    He provides decent pop both sides of the plate (.786 career OPS vs. lefties, .778 OPS vs. righties) and can play first, third and both corner outfield positions. Also, as Miller’s story noted, Hinske is “something of a good-luck charm” having played in the last three World Series. So, in the words of Bill Murray, he’s got that goin’ for him.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Well, I guess he’s somethin. Do you think Wren’s saving money for a midseason trade? I read somewhere that might not be a bad idea.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Princess Leah, DOB indicated earlier today that Wren is not saving up for a midseason trade. Wren says the figures circulating in the press are not accurate. He says there’s no payroll cut, it’s just that moneys are being left out of the figuring.

    Basically, the 90-92 million from last year is the same “soft ceiling,” it’s just that we’ve underestimated the planned incentive costs for Glaus and others, and McLouth’s option buy-out, and maybe a few other nickels (thousands) and dimes (millions).

    So, no, not much hope for a midseason splash. According to DOB, who says he got it straight from the man.

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    Steve Says:

    Leah – according to Wren today, there is no more money for 2010.

    At least Hinske can play some 1B and OF, too. And he has a little pop in his bat as well. But really, this is a pinch hitter. Sigh …

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, it is a significant comfort to me that he plays both 1st and 3rd, where our two ouchies reside. That’s right, isn’t it? He plays both corners?

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Yeah Bub I just read he also plays 3rd. Steve, we need a new show now that a lot of unanswered questions are set in stone. Just make sure Curt’s wife slips him some uppers before the taping.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt on uppers would just be Eyore in a “Chipmunks” voice. :)

    Chriiiistmas, Chriiiiistmas tiiiiime is heeeere,
    Tiiime to pout… and tiiiime to jeeer…

    (you know I bow to your baseball IQ, though, Curt…)

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    Princess Leah Says:

    I don’t know how good he can play ball but dude almost always looks like he’s on drugs. Are the Pirates playing ball this year? Just curious.

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    Curt Says:


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    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    Okay, Curt. Just for that, I’m about to become the most unabashed Braves Homer the world has ever seen. It’s on. No more waffling. The Braves can do no wrong, and are going to with the NL East and the World Series.

    Homerun totals 2010:

    Glaus: 37
    McCann: 31
    Heyward: 22
    Chipper: 22
    McLouth: 22
    Melky/Diaz: 17
    Escobar: TWENTY!
    Marteeeeeeeeeeen Prado: well, eight. NO! TWELVE!!! RRRAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!



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    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    I’d like to point something out I’ve been meaning to say:

    Not so much here (but this is the only place I post), but lots of places I see fans bemoaning Melky as just another Francoeur. Well, I say they’re right, but in a good way.

    Melky is what Francoeur is to the Mets, not what he was to Atlanta. Both players come with limited expectations, limited pressure, and most imporantly, in limited roles. Atlanta counted on Frenchy for major production. Mets don’t. Neither will we count on Melky for it. For what we need from him, I’ll be glad to take “another Francoeur.”

    A Melky/Frenchy used in the right way is no bad thing.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Excellent point Mr. Dylan. I’m a little upset,however, that you predicted so few homers for my main squeeze Prado.

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    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    Alright, I must now confess that my unwillingness to consider Prado as legit is straight stupid. I just got back from I had no idea. I must have just missed a lot of games where he performed well.

    Prado: 16 homers.

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    Anne Says:

    I can’t help myself. “He plays both corners?” Thanks, Bub. Hilarious.

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    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    Leah, you have mail.

    :) :) :) :)

    :) :) :) :)

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    Princess Leah Says:

    nice. Hey! Where’s my dollar? Steve, new podcast? Ya know…for the thumbs.

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    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    Yeah, Steve, new podcast! A Hinske Podcast. You know what would be funny, is if you did kind of a mocumentary podcast. Pick somebody like… Chavez or Thurston and straightface your way through an entire podcast where you talk about their high impact on the team.

    I bet you’d get tons of new listeners just from the people who took you seriously.

    Of course… it might make your clubhouse interviews … awkward.

    Then again, if you did it on Diaz instead … and talked him up as the NL MVP… future HOF (you’d have to be pretty ridiculous, just cuz he’s really an impact player), he’d totally love it.

    DO IT!

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    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    *hands Princess Leah a dollar*

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    Curt Says:

    I’m on board Bub. I have exorcised the Damons.

    Go Braves

  310. 310
    Tcc Says:

    So, Curt the pessimist is now Curt the Exorcist!?? Man, if it works I’m all for it!! Go Braves!!

  311. 311
    Curt Says:

    I can spin my head all the way around and I vomit a lot, so sure.

  312. 312
    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    You’re on board? You mean you think it’s a decent team? What do you mean? Are you converted???!!! Are you … HAPPY CURT?

    Don’t tease me, man. I could get really hurt.

  313. 313
    Curt Says:

    Bub, I’m never happy. Especially after watching the Jackets last night.

    But this is the team, clearly, so let’s roll and see what happens.

    I think it is a decent team. I don’t think it is a playoff team. But I’m open to surprises in 2010. Glaus was interviewed in Atlanta today and talked about how he felt and how excited he was to be playing for Bobby. I wouldn’t expect that he would say he is going to suck and will be stealing money, but he seemed genuine. So I’ll give him a month before I start killing him. How’s that? It’s all part of Curt 2.0.

    No props for the pun?

  314. 314
    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    Yes, MAD props for the Damon pun. I meant to say that, but the prospect of seeing you happy threw off my groove.

    “How’s that? It’s all part of Curt 2.0″

    I’d say it’s a right friendly compromise.

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    The Avett Brothers Says:

    Guys…something dreadful has happened. Someone has taken Eeyore hostage and replaced him with Pooh! Or at least Rabbit. I’d like to see that Glaus interview. I think I’ll go find it.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Ummm…no idea how that happened…I know you all are wondering who posted #315. It was me…Princess Leah. Just wanted to clear that up.

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    Curt Says: for the Glaus interview. I’ll assume it is there as they archive most of their interviews. Sometimes there is a lag though.

    Maybe Piglet?

  318. 318
    Princess Leah Says:

    I don’t know Curt. Piglet may cause some to suspend your man card.

  319. 319
    Steve Says:

    New show coming Sunday night. Possible show title:

    “Are you there, Glaus’ healthy shoulder? It’s me, the 2010 Braves’ playoff chances.”

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    Princess Leah Says:


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    Tcc Says:

    Possible show title:

    “Are you there, Glaus’ healthy shoulder? It’s me, the 2010 Braves’ playoff chances.”

    or how about “Hinkse, Schminske”!

  322. 322
    Princess Leah Says:

    Tcc, have you ever heard Nickel Creek? “You Don’t Have to Move That Mountain” and “The Fox” from their album Reasons Why are my favorites. Thought you might like them.

  323. 323
    Tcc Says:

    Leah, I have heard some of their music. It’s very good. I prefer really old timey stuff. Check out Dan Gellert’s “Waitin’ On the Break of Day”

    Go Braves…looking forward to the new show.

  324. 324
    Curt Says:

    “Do the 2010 Braves have a Glaus ceiling?”

  325. 325
    Princess Leah Says:

    Poached Sea, which is more important, my remembering your favorite genre of music or your name…I ask you?

    Bub D…why are posing as Curt?

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    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    “Are you there, Glaus’ healthy shoulder? It’s me, the 2010 Braves’ playoff chances.”

    I lol’d, Steve.

    Curt, dang it, I was going to think of that one.

    Princess Leah (I hope you’re impressed I keep typing the whole thing cuz it’s a real pain in the ass), I’m not posing as Curt. But if I did, the reason would be obvious: for the women.

  327. 327
    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    Predictions, anyone?

    Bama 20,
    Texas 17.

  328. 328
    Princess Leah Says:

    Bubdylan the Homer, I’m the Princess…it can’t be helped. I do appreciate the respect and acknowledgment of my royal position.

    Hookem’ Tide! Roll Longhorns!

  329. 329
    Tcc Says:

    Colt, we hardly knew ye..

  330. 330
    Tcc Says:

    OMG…Bama’s marching band looks like they’ve been eating high on the hog!!

  331. 331
    Princess Leah Says:

    I predict that Bub’s prediction of Bama’s score will be low. Very, very low. I also am very thankful I’m not poor Gilbert’s Mama.

  332. 332
    Tcc Says:

    sorry for that remark..unkind. pulling for the rookie and a miracle. otherwise I don’t care who all.

  333. 333
    Princess Leah Says:

    Thorn, you’re forgiven if you tell us your name.

  334. 334
    Wes Welker Says:

    Colt, Bummer, dude..I feel your pain.

  335. 335
    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    What happened when the Texas quarterback made bail?

    Gilbert Got Freed.

    Roll Tide.

  336. 336
    Wes Welker Says:

    Leah, I’ll tell mine when you tell yours.

  337. 337
    Wes Welker Says:

    oops, another blown cover..

  338. 338
    Steve Says:

    “Do the 2010 Braves have a Glaus ceiling?” – That was fantastic, Curt.

    With no rooting interest in tonight’s game, the McCoy injury is really, really disappointing. Not seeing the game I was promised. Oh well.

  339. 339
    Tcc Says:

    Biblical dose of Ingram coming in the 4th stanza.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Bub, be honest…were you the idiot on the field earlier? Tell the truth.
    Tcc, Princess Leah IS my name and I have the Disney Cinderella coffee mug to prove it.

  341. 341
    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    No, that wasn’t me. But … can you bail me out of this Pasadena jail on an unrelated charge?

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    Anne Says:

    I live in a cave, apparently…and had NO IDEA that Fenway Park goes hockey-style (and ice skating, too??) at this time of year. Holy crap that’s awesome.
    Working at the “Harvard of the South” in Atlanta, when there’s a smattering of snow like this, our photographers always rush out and get lovely wintry photos so that the upper echelon can use them for their holiday cards at the end of the year. I’ve always thought that was hilarious, but honestly if I could snag me a picture of Turner Field covered in snow, that’d be MY Christmas card.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Ditto! Any pic of Turner Field would make a great Christmas card but covered in snow would be dreamy.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Has anyone ever been to Spring Training games? It seems like they would be really fun.

  345. 345
    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    My favorite football team just won the National Championship, and my feelings about it last night and this morning make me seriously wonder if I’ll be a sports fan that much longer.

    Go Braves!

  346. 346
    Princess Leah Says:

    WHO ARE YOU? Why are the aliens taking over ABTers? First Curt now BdtH. New show quick! We’re all discombobulated!

  347. 347
    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    Wouldn’t that be “discombubulated”?

  348. 348
    Bubdylan the Homer Says:

    Anyway, pay no attention to me. Just my regularly scheduled bi-weekly internal fandom spiral. I’ll start keeping it to myself eventually. Maybe. Pro’lly not.

  349. 349
    Anne Says:

    Leah – I’ve been to FLA spring training, but not to the Braves. I have a friend who is a die-hard Indians fan (poor thing) and we went down there, oh, I guess about 5 years ago now. It was really a blast. I think it was the Detroit Tigers who had a brand-new field – that was great to see. I absolutley recommend spring training at least once in a lifetime. When you get out of the car, it smells like oranges, and every field has that minor-league homer-type feel to it.

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Omg, I’m sick of all the last name puns!

    What is this?

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    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Did someone do “Glaus of Melk” yet? Because that’s clever.

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    Princess Leah Says:

    Huh…how about that. I guess I DO have a filter.

  353. 353
    Proud of Princess Leah Says:

    Indeed you have. :)

  354. 354
    Bubdylan Says:

    What did the hungry Braves players beg of Andruw Jones between innings?

    Just Teixeira, Chipper too.

  355. 355
    Bubdylan Says:

    What do you call three dead roosters floating in the ocean?

    Bobby Cocks.

  356. 356
    Bubdylan Says:

    What was Yunel Escobar’s religious confession in 2008?

    I kneed Church.

  357. 357
    Bubdylan Says:

    What did Bobby Cox say to Richard Simmons?

    Just keep Johnson away from McCann.

    (okay, sorry…)

  358. 358
    Princess Leah Says:

    Keep ‘em comin’!

  359. 359
    Tcc Says:

    Princess, be careful what you ask for!

  360. 360
    Princess Leah Says:

    I’m slow tonight…I just got #356. It’s the best one.

  361. 361
    Tcc Says:

    I’m behind you, PL. I thought #357 was the best when I finally got it..shame on you Bub!

  362. 362
    Princess Leah Says:

    TCC! PL? Princess I can handle but PL? That will never do! We don’t all go by our initials Thornicus Cledus Calhoun.

  363. 363
    Wiley Says:

    Anybody here ever tried Strat-o-matic Baseball?

  364. 364
    Curt Says:

    I don’t know how many of you are on FB – but Anne, you were looking for some pictures of Turner Field in the snow and the official Braves FB group had some up last night.

  365. 365
    Anne Says:

    See, Curt? You DO care. I’ll go check that out. Thanks for letting us know.

  366. 366
    Princess Leah Says:

    I’m on Fb…yes indeedy. I tweet too. Ahem.

  367. 367
    Princess Leah Says:

    Wow…Ga Tech. Nice.

  368. 368
    Thornicus Says:

    Sorry, Leah, meant no harm or disrespect. And, YES, good to see the dookies go into the loss column.

  369. 369
    Princess Leah Says:

    Thorn, your forgiven just don’t let it happen again.
    Curt, Bull Durham didn’t make the cut.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I absolutely agree with “Eight Men Out” as the top pick.

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    Curt Says:

    Insane list. Rowlands Office who also brought us Bon Rathbun as the new voice of the Braves. I, in fact, just re-watched Bull Durham again the other night for the 10,000 time and it is, if not the best, one of the best baseball movies ever. Bad News Bears? The Natural? Fine movies, but top-3? Insane. I think Steve and Ham will back me on this one.

    Go Jackets.

  372. 372
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Why the Phillies need to watch out for Los Bravitos:

  373. 373
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    Can’t wait for the show tonight,

    I can honestly say it’s my third favorite thing tonight:

    1. Chuck!!!!!!
    2. FOX lineup
    3. This show
    4. Cupcakes

    But to be fair, cupcakes is always number 4.

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    Wiley Says:

    Hey Guys!

    First of All, cant wait for the show. But i would be very curious (i know its difficult for baseball) to see your opinions on the schedule. I am not expecting, nor am i wishing, for you to break down game by game and decide W or L. But, for instance i remember last year’s month where we really needed to take advantage of schedule was April. And well, we didnt going 10-11 and getting swept by the fish at the Ted. Thanks.


  375. 375
    Jurrjens4NLCY Says:

    450 episodes is ridiculousness… No prime time TV show will ever do that, ever. While I’m not the biggest Simpsons fan, I do love the show

    Here we go!

    Number 450!

  376. 376
    Princess Leah Says:

    Here’s to the Braves’ 2010 season and to a very high pitched Curt.

  377. 377
    Curt Says:

    i took a xanax before the show. much calmer this week.

  378. 378
    Curt Says:

    More of the front office blaming the fans. Outrageous:

    Fans want to be wowed. That’s just not happening any more with the Braves. They don’t have the budget. They’re at about a $90 million payroll, and Wren said, “We feel fortunate where we are. That’s still pretty good, especially with declining attendance. We’re not a three million attendance club, which would allow us to do more.”

    Braves attendance was a little under 2.4 million. 15th in the league. Top attendance teams with the 3 million figure Wren points to (see if you can sense a theme) – LA Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Cards, Angels, Cubs, Mets, Red Sox, and surprisingly the Brewers. So all the playoff teams. New stadium for the Mets. Brewers? No idea. But all the teams spending money.

    He has to build a team that will bring people back to the park, not the other way around. I can’t say this enough.

  379. 379
    Haruka Says:

    first, know this: i like the braves. i am moivng to atlanta in august and the braves will quickly become my 2nd favorite team. however, i have 2 comments:1. a minor point. the NL Central has 6 teams: cards, reds, pirates, cubs, astros, and brewers.2. the NL Central was created in 1994, so you should fully expect the NL East to have more world series, etc since 1969. they had a 25 year headstart (aaaand the cardinals won 1 of those 8 WS in 1982 and the pirates won 2 of them in 1971 and 1979).

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